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Two of the keys to financial success, especially in a couple's relationship, are knowledge and communication. This article focuses on the aspect of communication.

Tom Monson, the Vice President of Simple Joe, Inc. was giving a series of free seminars on personal finance to people in his neighborhood. Many couples were scheduled to attend but only two or three were showing up.

Tom and I discussed the situation and wondered why attendance was so low. We knew many people were interested and several had expressed a desire to learn more about finances directly to Tom. But when it came to showing up for the seminar they seemed to find other things to do.

As Tom and I were discussing this he commented on the behavior and attitude of some of the people who had shown up for the first two seminars. At the first seminar, Tom noticed that several of the husband & wife couples seemed a bit uncomfortable discussing financial matters with each other.

Much of Tom's seminar involved recognizing and evaluating your current financial situation, setting financial goals and ways to measure your progress. But he was having a hard time getting the couples to discuss financial matters between themselves.

We wondered if these couples may be hesitant to have a frank financial conversation because conversations about money can lead to disagreements and even fights. It has been estimated that over half of all divorces occur to some degree because of disagreements over money and finances.

So maybe these couples were hesitant to get into a public argument about their finances because they know that every time they talk about money they fight. Or they may just have had one or two really bad fights about finances and so now they try to avoid the subject.

I would venture to guess that all fights about money and finances can be boiled down to one of two root problems; lack of communication (or misunderstanding) and selfishness.

Lack of communication occurs when one spouse spends money the other had earmarked for something else. Or when an important financial decision occurs without input from the other spouse. Or when a large purchase is made without the consultation or consent of the other spouse.

Misunderstanding can occur when the couple is hesitant to enter into a financial discussion, has trouble communicating or just has trouble expressing financial ideas. It could be that one spouse does not fully understand a financial concept. Or one spouse is not being patient enough to have a full discussion of the subject.

The need to be right vs. wrong in making financial decisions is often very strong, especially in men. As the historical provider for the family, some men see finances as solely their domain. It can also be a sign of status or ego.

And in a situation where there are financial problems, many men can get defensive easily when the wife questions decisions or situations. This can lead to fights and misunderstandings.

After a discussion breaks down, the husband may feel like the wife is ungrateful for what he does and does not trust him to make correct financial decisions.

Meanwhile the wife may feel like the husband is talking down to her, does not value her contributions to the family and maybe is even hiding something from her.

This can happen when emotions get in the way of communication. It is very important to be considerate of your spouse and be careful how you phrase questions and comments.

Also it is important to ask questions when you don't know or understand a financial situation or decision. Lack of understanding will lead to future confrontations. The husband may assume that the wife knows the impact of the decision they just made. Then if something goes wrong the husband can get angered at his wife's questions because, to him, they could seem like an accusation.

Or the wife may do something that the husband does not fully understand and then the husband gets upset because "she did not tell" him what it is she was doing or why.

So how do we solve or avoid these problems of lack of communication and misunderstandings?

The first step is to leave your ego outside the door. You don't know everything and neither does your spouse. It is important to make sure that both people understand the financial topic, how it affects their lives and what type of decision is best for them and why.

If the wife is stronger in one area of finances, she needs to patiently explain to the husband what she knows and how it affects them. If the husband is more versed in a financial topic he should patiently explain to the wife what he knows.

If neither of them have a good grasp on the subject, "shut up" and go learn something more about it. Also don't be embarrassed or ashamed of not knowing something. Just because you are the "man" does not mean that you were born with financial genius.

Just because you are the "woman" does not make you an expert on household finances and it in no way means that you are "not capable" of understanding financial topics and concepts. Don't pigeon-hole your spouse or allow your spouse to gloss over something without an explanation that you both understand and could repeat to someone else.

We all make mistakes and we all have things to learn. Don't let your pride or your ego get in the way of your financial success. Don't let the subject of money become a sore spot in your relationship. If you can remember to talk with your spouse in the same kind of patient and respectful way you talk with your boss, your conversations about finances will go much smoother.


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David Berky is president of Simple Joe,
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Hiding Debts From Your Spouse Can Be Recipe for Divorce

By Lisa Scherzer
January 11, 2007

LIKE ANY OTHER bad habit, debt — when spinning out of control — can become a shameful secret that one partner in a relationship hides from the other.

Just ask "Him" and "Her," the Chicago couple that runs the anonymous blog makelovenotdebt.com1. "Her," as she identifies herself in the blog, admits that just one year ago, she hid her $154,000 in debt (consisting of student loans and credit-card debt) from her soon-to-be fiancé.

The now-26-year-old thought her debt would drive her boyfriend away. As the tally climbed higher, her anxiety grew with it. "I was afraid the relationship would be over," she says. "What would you do if someone asked you to acquire $150,000 in debt overnight? I didn't feel I could ask him to do that."

It's an increasingly common predicament. The amount of debt the average American carries has steadily climbed over the past decade and currently sits at $6,600 in credit-card debt alone, according to the Washington, D.C.-based think tank Center for American Progress. And no fewer than five credit cards are nestled in the average consumer's wallet. With averages like that, it's no surprise that for many, debts are becoming overwhelming, leading some to take great pains to hide their problem.

People think "if [my partner] knew this about me, he or she won't want to be with me," says Washington D.C.-based Olivia Mellan, a therapist and money coach. Still, it's a problem that should not be ignored. With financial issues often being cited as the No. 1 cause of divorce, debt secrets can often lead to the demise of the relationship and financial ruin.

After seven years together, Her finally came clean. Him says the number gave him "a mini heart attack." Not wanting to be dragged down into a never-ending spiral of debt, the couple agreed to tackle the debt together. Today, the newly engaged pair has created what they call a "value-based plan" where they've identified shared values, like health and quality time together. They prioritize their spending by keeping those values in mind.

'Til Debts Do Us Part

Hidden debts ultimately led New York attorney Barry Rothberg to seek a divorce from his wife. Nine months into his marriage, Rothberg (who requested we change his name for privacy reasons), now 30, discovered his wife was hiding debts from him, as bills addressed to her began coming in from various department stores and online retailers. When he inquired as to how much her purchases cost, his wife's answers were evasive, Rothberg says.

After a final confrontation, Rothberg's wife admitted she was carrying debt on several credit and store cards, but didn't give him an exact number. "Her unwillingness to give me an answer about the amounts and the extent of the debt was really the last straw that prompted my leaving," he says.

Rothberg is getting remarried this month. Before deciding to say "I do" he and his fiancé ran credit checks to show each other their debt-free bill of health. "I had no reason for suspicion," he says. "But once we saw it, it was 'OK, nothing to worry about, we can go on to the next thing.'"

Discussing debts and taking a fiscal check-up prior to marriage is, of course, a great idea — although it often doesn't happen. In many cases, spouses are kept in the dark about their partners' debts until their marriages end in divorce or when one spouse dies.

Sheera Gefen-Greenberg, a matrimonial attorney for municipal employees' services in New York, had a client who was largely in the dark about her husband's assets and liabilities — that is, until the couple entered the discovery phase of their divorce, when it was revealed that he had racked up a significant amount of debt for various purchases, including trips and pricey electronic gadgets.

"Even though he's primarily liable for those debts, the wife, in a divorce, may still have to foot the bill at the end of the day," warns Gefen-Greenberg. Divorce laws vary by state. In New York, any debt accrued during the marriage is legally considered marital debt subject to distribution between the parties in a divorce. "Without a prenuptial or postnuptial agreement, it's hard to protect yourself," she says. "You shouldn't be passive about your finances; know what's going on throughout the marriage."

For more on how debts are handled during divorce, click here9.

Who Wears the Accountant Hat?

Financial values are instilled at a young age and carried into adulthood and marriage. So when two individuals get together and marry their money, a financial clash is almost inevitable.

"Most of the couples I deal with have different views about debt," says Barbara Bachelder, a certified financial planner and co-owner of Wealth by Design, a financial-planning firm in Sausalito, Calif. The differences — spender vs. saver is probably the most prominent example — often lead to one partner taking charge of the family's finances, sometimes grudgingly.

Ron McKelvey, 57, puts himself into the "saver" camp. It was only after he got married did he learn that his philosophy on money was nothing like his wife's. "She's the kind of person who would write checks and say, 'There must be money in the account because I still have checks,'" says McKelvey (not his real name), a marketing consultant in the Chicago area. "I've ended up de facto being the money boss, and I don't like that job. But I can't figure a way out of it," he says.

Financial planners say spouses' disagreements about money are often really about larger issuesof control. But it's possible to resolve some of the financial disharmony by coming to terms with your partner's money habits. "I think there's a tendency when it comes to marriage that both partners will think they're right when it comes to this issue," says Neil Chethik, author of "Voicemale: What Husbands Really Think About Their Wives, Marriages, Housework and Commitment." Learning to work with your spouse's habits — rather than trying to change them — is one way to smooth things over.

Chethik, 49, says in his own marriage, his and his wife's divergent attitudes about money caused years of mistrust. "She would sneak spending money, and I would sneak saving money," he says. But with time, they came to realize that neither one was right or wrong. Now the couple sits down twice a year to review their finances, and a budget keeps spending in check. "Our money disagreements have gone down a lot in the last five to 10 years," Chethik says.

He may be one of the lucky ones. When there are secrets and tension surrounding money, many couples either split up or give up. But seeking the assistance of a financial planner or a debt counselor can help. Think of it this way: Not only could it help you regain your financial footing, but it could save your marriage as well.

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